Origamic Architecture

OA Maillist Archive: 1999_11_10

[OA] Re: 180 degree
[OA] Re: 180 degree
Re: [OA] Re: 180 degree
[OA] Ink It!
Re: [OA] Ink It!
[OA] Thanks to Andrew & re Henzo Glue
Re: [OA] Henzo Glue
[OA] New OAer Seeking Patterns & Instructions
[OA] Stairs
[OA] Re: Help

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From: "Jenny Rolfe" 
To: oa@deepwizardry.com
Subject: [OA] Re: 180 degree
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:58:29 +0100
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  I am new to origamic architecture and have not as yet got 
  hold of any pattern books, I have mainly been creating patterns from pictures 
  of completed models that I have seen. Some of the models have me stumped 
  though, the ones that seem to stand alone on the page with no sign of where 
  they sprang from, the chrysanthimum (is that how you spell it?) for one, are 
  there several pieces of card involved or is it something that I am not seeing 
  in the photographs, if anyone could help me out I would be very 
  grateful
  jenny

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From: "Gerry Stormer" 
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Subject: Re: [OA] Re: 180 degree
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 12:49:43 -0500
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jenny Rolfe 
  To: oa@deepwizardry.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 9:58 AM
  Subject: [OA] Re: 180 degree
  
    I am new to origamic architecture and have not as yet got 
    hold of any pattern books, I have mainly been creating patterns from 
    pictures of completed models that I have seen. Some of the models have me 
    stumped though, the ones that seem to stand alone on the page with no sign 
    of where they sprang from, the chrysanthimum (is that how you spell it?) for 
    one, are there several pieces of card involved or is it something that I am 
    not seeing in the photographs, if anyone could help me out I would be very 
    grateful
    jenny

    Jenny,

    The 180º pop-ups are accomplished with the use of string.  These 
    cards require a number of individual pieces cut and then fitted 
    together to form a whole.  Once this is finished, the pattern will 
    instruct you where to attach the strings.  They are attached using 
    Japanese rice paper which is almost invisible.  The strings are then 
    fed through the base sheet to the underside where they are taped, glued etc. 
    to they will remain in place.  Once all the strings are secured another 
    base sheet is placed over them to hide them from view.  This is how 
    these cards work and it's quite amazing to see them pop-up.  I hope 
    this helps.  If it doesn't fully explain your question please let me 
    know.  Gerrry Stormer

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From: "Jenny Rolfe" 
To: oa@deepwizardry.com
Subject: Re: [OA] Re: 180 degree
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:54:23 +0100
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cor, no wonder I couldn't work out how they were done just by 
looking at the pictures! I think I'll stick to the 90 degree stuff for a little 
longer then

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gerry Stormer 
  To: oa@deepwizardry.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 6:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [OA] Re: 180 degree

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jenny Rolfe 
    To: oa@deepwizardry.com 
    Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 9:58 AM
    Subject: [OA] Re: 180 degree
      
      I am new to origamic architecture and have not as yet 
      got hold of any pattern books, I have mainly been creating patterns from 
      pictures of completed models that I have seen. Some of the models have me 
      stumped though, the ones that seem to stand alone on the page with no sign 
      of where they sprang from, the chrysanthimum (is that how you spell it?) 
      for one, are there several pieces of card involved or is it something that 
      I am not seeing in the photographs, if anyone could help me out I would be 
      very grateful
      jenny
       
      Jenny,
       
      The 180º pop-ups are accomplished with the use of string.  These 
      cards require a number of individual pieces cut and then fitted 
      together to form a whole.  Once this is finished, the pattern will 
      instruct you where to attach the strings.  They are attached using 
      Japanese rice paper which is almost invisible.  The strings are then 
      fed through the base sheet to the underside where they are taped, glued 
      etc. to they will remain in place.  Once all the strings are secured 
      another base sheet is placed over them to hide them from view.  This 
      is how these cards work and it's quite amazing to see them pop-up.  I 
      hope this helps.  If it doesn't fully explain your question please 
      let me know.  Gerrry Stormer

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From: Andrew Crawford 
Subject: [OA] Ink It!
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Greetings!

I spent a little time with OA this weekend, beyond setting up the list.  A 
friend of mine and her mom just opened a new paper arts store in Gilbert, 
AZ (Ink It!)  I haven't quite convinced them to stock all of Chatani-san's 
books, yet but, I did make a quick OA of their logo for the grand 
opening.  It's nothing wildly exciting but, there's a picture of it up, 
along with other images from the grand opening (including a 2-node 
QuickTimeVR immersive panorama, one of my other hobbies.)

      http://www.deepwizardry.com/temp/19990925/

I think I have them about convinced to carry the Henzo glue for me.

Anyhow, I thought I would share! :)

Andrew Crawford
Andrew@Evermore.com

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From: "Gerry Stormer" 
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Subject: Re: [OA] Ink It!
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:12:14 -0500
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Thanks for sharing Andrew!!!  The OA is great...very unique design that's
for sure.  Glad to hear about the source for Henzo glue but keep working on
them about the pattern books.  ;-)  The Quick Time panorama is
excellent...looks like a great place.

Gerry Stormer
gerrys@spiff.net


----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Crawford 
To: oa@deepwizardry.com
Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 9:48 PM
Subject: [OA] Ink It!


> Greetings!
>
> I spent a little time with OA this weekend, beyond setting up the list.  A
> friend of mine and her mom just opened a new paper arts store in Gilbert,
> AZ (Ink It!)  I haven't quite convinced them to stock all of Chatani-san's
> books, yet but, I did make a quick OA of their logo for the grand
> opening.  It's nothing wildly exciting but, there's a picture of it up,
> along with other images from the grand opening (including a 2-node
> QuickTimeVR immersive panorama, one of my other hobbies.)
>
>       http://www.deepwizardry.com/temp/19990925/
>
> I think I have them about convinced to carry the Henzo glue for me.
>
> Anyhow, I thought I would share! :)
>
> Andrew Crawford
> Andrew@Evermore.com
>

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From: KSelena@aol.com
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 00:45:12 EDT
Subject: [OA] Thanks to Andrew & re Henzo Glue
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First, a big thanks to Andrew for launching this OA MailList.  It's been 
something I've been hoping for a long time that the online OA community would 
be able to do and now it's here!

Second, as a onetime major proponent of Henzo glue, I feel I must add an 
update regarding my change of heart about this product.  While I still like 
it's many terrific qualities -- non-warping, ease of application, rubber 
cement-like clean up, archival -- I have found over time that this may not be 
the best glue for OA.  I've found that after a while, particularly with 
humidity, the glue comes "unstuck."  Sometimes this can be a positive thing 
-- e.g., a string on a 180° card comes loose and you need to remove the base 
to fix it -- but most of the time, it can be a major hassle to have the card 
come apart.  And if you give the card to someone -- esp. a non-OA'er -- it's 
not so wonderful if the card becomes unglued after a while, especially as a 
lot of people enjoy displaying these paper sculptures.  This is particularly 
not good as the glue yellows after a while and you see an unpleasant bunch of 
yellow glue streaks on the inside of the card.  I believe Henzo is designed 
for use with photos and I think it is well suited for that use.  Although not 
all of my cards with Henzo have come apart, enough of them have for me to 
switch to another glue which I am now recommending.  

That glue is the Lineco brand Neutral pH Adhesive.  This is a white, liquid 
glue which dries clear, a 4oz bottle costs around $4.25 USD, although I've 
seen it for less.  It also comes in a larger size, but I've found the 4oz to 
be easier to hold and work with.  I believe the glue is archival since it it 
neutral pH.  Initially I did not like this glue, because I had problems with 
warping, however after working with it, I found that if I used only tiny 
beads of the glue, there is no warping problem.  Application is pretty easy, 
just make sure that the hole you make at the tip of the cone-shaped 
applicator is very small (start with a pinhole-size).  I've found that if I 
keep the hole small enough,  apply the right amount of pressure, and keep the 
bottle moving swiftly on my paper, I get a nice line of beads of glue along 
the edges I want to stick together (note: apply on only one side to be 
glued).  So far, the Lineco Neutral pH Adhesive has worked fine and is 
permanent.  The one big drawback of this glue vs. the Henzo is that if you 
get a drop on your card where it shouldn't go, you have to come up with a 
creative way to cover it up, because you can't just wipe it away pristine as 
with the Henzo.  However, sometimes, a creative solution can improve the card!

I think that I might still use the Henzo on OA models for my collection (esp. 
where I think I might need to adjust strings, etc. at some point down the 
line), BUT only to glue the model to the base.  I would strongly discourage 
anyone from using Henzo to put together a string OA model, definitely use 
another glue to adhere strings to the model.  With all the work that the 
string models require, you don't want risk those getting loose or unglued.  

I would enjoy hearing other comments/feedback on the Henzo, Lineco, or other 
glues.

K. Selena Kim
Bridgewater, NJ  USA
http://members.aol.com/kselena

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From: Andrew Crawford 
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At 12:45 AM 9/28/99 -0400, you wrote:
>First, a big thanks to Andrew for launching this OA MailList.  It's been
>something I've been hoping for a long time that the online OA community would
>be able to do and now it's here!

Glad to do it!

>Second, as a onetime major proponent of Henzo glue, I feel I must add an
>update regarding my change of heart about this product.

>K. Selena Kim

I recently discovered an improved version of one of the things I was using 
before you told me about the Henzo glue, Letraset's StudioTac dry 
adhesive.  It's supposed to be an alternative to spray adhesives - easier 
to control, doesn't coat your lungs, etceteras.  It comes in sheets.  You 
remove a protective oversheet and put what you want to stick on the sheet 
and burnish it lightly.  Peel it off and then you position the piece where 
you want it.  It is really good for evenly coating all the little bits on a 
single plane when mounting an OA to a base sheet.  It worked fairly well 
but, I had two major complaints: it was blue, inevitably showing through 
some papers, and it never fully set.

While visiting the local Flax store recently, I found a new product in the 
line.  It's "high-tack permanent adhesive" and it's clear.  Any stray bits 
or excess can be easily removed by rubbing it off with a finger or with 
mounting putty.  I haven't worked with the new stuff enough to know how it 
will hold up in the long run, yet.  I'll keep you posted.

Another drawback is the price.  It's about $26 for 20 11.5" by 17.5" 
sheets.  It's also available in a 5.5" by 9" pad for a bit less (not sure 
how much it was.)

I haven't been able to find any information about StudioTac's archival 
qualities (not that I've looked very hard.)  They seem to be billing it as 
a professional solution for mounting things like photos so, I would expect 
it to be neutral ph.

I have yet to try the Lineco adhesive but, am pretty sure I've seen it 
somewhere recently.


Andrew Crawford
Andrew@Evermore.com

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From: Andrew Crawford 
Subject: [OA] New OAer Seeking Patterns & Instructions
Cc: "Raveen" 
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Greetings,

I am sending this person the pattern for my Evermon OA (which I will also 
post on my OA page, eventually.)  I don't have patterns for anything else 
I've done in a presentable format at this point, though.  I thought one of 
you might be able to provide some additional assistance.  I have a surface 
mail address (in the UK) that I have cut out of the message.  If you have 
something to mail, let me know and I'll forward the address off-list.

Andrew Crawford
Andrew@Evermore.com

>From: "Raveen" 
>Subject: enquiring
>Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:27:26 +0100
>
>To whom it may concern.
>I am currently doing a GCSE project at school on Dynamic greetings cards. 
>In order to achieve a higher grade pass I must construct several cards 
>which have pop-up in them. If it is possible, could you send me a few 
>examples of pop-up and instructions of how to make them, e.g Evermon etc.
>My details:

[Address removed]

>I would be MOST grateful if you could send me anything as soon a possible!.
>Thankyou.
>Yours sincerely
>     Raveen Sodhi

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From: Andrew Crawford 
Subject: [OA] Stairs
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Greetings fellow OAers!

Thumbing through the Boston Museum of Fine Arts catalog, I stumbled on an 
exhibition book that appears to have pieces done in the OA style.  It's 
called "Stairs."  I have only seen the catalog's picture of one of the 10 
pieces in the book, so far.  It was originally published in the early 1980s 
but, sold out quickly.  I hadn't seen it before so, thought I would forward 
the info in case I wasn't the only one.

I've added an entry on my OA page ( http://evermore.com/oa/ .)  Amazon has 
it for $17.47.  Boston MFA has it for full list ($24.95.)  As with the 
links on my OA page, the link here is an Amazon Associates link that 
benefits Arizona Aikido.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=1556709633/arizonaaikidoA

Rein Jansma & Joost Elffers / Hardcover / Published October 1999

This book contains 10 carefully-crafted pieces representing staircases.
Rein Jansma is a well-known architect in the Netherlands and co-owner of 
the architectural firm, Zwarts & Jansma. Among other projects, his 
office has designed the Dutch Pavilion at the 1992 World Exhibition in 
Spain and the expansion of the Rembrandt House in Amsterdam.  This is an 
exhibition book, not a pattern book.

Andrew Crawford
Andrew@Evermore.com

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From: Andrew Crawford 
Subject: [OA] Re: Help
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Alex,

I'm posting this to the OA discussion list in addition to sending it to 
you.  It's a good way to reach a bunch of people interested in OA all at 
once.  Seems like a good discussion for the list, too.

At 09:45 AM 11/9/99 -1000, [Alex Husdal] wrote:
> > Here are some questions I have to answer..well I do have some answers
> > to it, but I think it is nice to know other people's opinion as well.
> >
> > 1. What is Origami Architecture?

Based on what he has written in his books, I think Masahiro Chatani would 
define origamic architecture something like "creating unique pop-up cards 
by cutting and folding paper."  He distinguishes between 0-degree, 
90-degree, and 180-degree OA pop-up cards.

I'm inclined to think that the 90-degree variety is the most stylistically 
distinct and I personally tend to think primarily of those when someone 
says "origamic architecture."  The 90-degree variety of OA cards, with no 
exceptions I can think of at the moment, are made by cutting and folding a 
single piece of paper and, aside from adhering them to a backing, do not 
require glue.

There are 180-degree designs that share these characteristics so, I'm not 
sure categorizing them by how many degrees they open is quite 
perfect.  However, many other 180-degree and 0-degree designs consist of 
multiple pieces of paper assembled with glue and string.  These seem more 
like "traditional" pop-up cards to me and don't seem to be distinctly OA.

So, I guess my personal definition of "origamic architecture" is something 
like "pop-up cards created by cutting and folding a single piece of paper."

> > 2. How old this OA tradition is?

> > Sincerely,
> > Alex

According to the page opposing the contents in "Pattern Sheets of Origamic 
Architecture," the first exhibition of (Masahiro Chatani's) OA work was in 
1982 at the Ginza Matsuya Design Gallery in Tokyo.  I've seen several 
sources (including the first Omni article) indicating that it caught on in 
Japan around 1983 and in the U.S. around 1985.

I believe Chatani-san coined the term "origamic archietcture" so, 
technically, the "OA tradition" started circa 1982.  However, I'm pretty 
sure there are pop-up card designs that could be categorized as 
stylistically similar (if relatively simple) to Chatani-san's work that 
predate 1982.  There is also the influence of more traditional origami.

I'd love to hear other people's take on this.  Is my characterization of 
the "OA style" complete?  Is it too specific?  Am I starting to sound like 
an otaku ("obsessive fan?") :)

Andrew Crawford
Andrew@Evermore.com

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