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Re: [OA] OA Question of the .... [OA] Which glue? [OA] Using patterns in books [OA] Japanese Rice Paper Re: [OA] Using patterns in books Re: [OA] Japanese Rice Paper Re: [OA] Which glue? [OA] Using patterns in books Re: [OA] Japanese Rice Paper Re[2]: [OA] Using patterns in books ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 00:50:32 -0700 To: oa@deepwizardry.com From: Andrew Crawford Subject: Re: [OA] OA Question of the .... Resent-From: oa@evermore.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1 X-Loop: oa@evermore.com Resent-Sender: oa-request@evermore.com I think this is a great idea. Every one out there: don't be bashful! At 01:14 AM 1/23/2000 -0500, K. Selena Kim wrote: >For the first question, I just couldn't decide between a philosophical >question and a practical question, so I'm floating them both and we'll see >what happens. Here they are! > >What do you think it is about OA, what is it's special quality or >character, that attracts you the most to this papercraft? This one is a bit of a challenge ... I think I've been attracted to paper since I was quite little. My grandmother was an artist and was always doing interesting things with or on paper. I have piles of different papers around my studio. I also grew up around the Japanese aesthetic. There is something quite magical about bringing complexity out of simplicity. A simple, white piece of paper, with some very meticulous cuts and folds, becomes a sculpture. OA are quite easy to share (folding flat and all.) The materials have little intrinsic value. All the power of an OA piece is the thought behind the design and the skill behind the execution. In my mind, that makes them perfect gifts: I cared enough to spend this much time and this much thought making something cool for you. There is really no mass-produced commercial equivalent, either. Like Gerry, I also find it a sort of "moving meditation." I become engrossed in the detail of immediate project. When I finish an OA, I find that I am usually more relaxed than when I started. I think those are the basic threads of my OA attraction, hokey though some of them may be. :) >What is your preferred paper or paper type for OA? (if you can please >incl. brand, color name, weight -- e.g., 40 pt, 80 lb, 280 gms) I have tried several different papers and would likely use different papers for different projects, if I thought it appropriate. I like something with a little less "tooth" but, I like the weight of watercolor paper. The best compromise I've found so far is Meridian Drawing paper (from Grumbacher, Inc.) It's only 90lb. but, feels heavier. It's 100% rag, which gives it a nice "hand." Neutral PH is also a big plus for me. Some of my first OA pieces (before I started using the Meridian paper) are quite yellow, now. It is available in pads at several art supply places here. I usually mount on Strathmore "Colored Art Paper." It's a 65lb paper with a tooth more like watercolor paper. It comes in pads with multiple colors. I think it is mainly targeted at people doing pastel drawings so, I've seen it in just about every art supply place that has paper. Sometimes I will use things like bark paper or different varieties of handmade Japanese washi, bonded to another layer of the Meridian or a bristol for mounting. Andrew Crawford Andrew@Evermore.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Toomey" To: "'oa@deepwizardry.com'" Subject: [OA] Which glue? Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:18:13 -0000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com Hi, I've only recently discovered OA and I'm hooked but I have a couple of problems........here's one! I've been using 220 gsm Cartridge paper up until now and have been backing my pop-ups with coloured card, (which is of unknown "weight" but which seems to be at least as stiff as the paper). My trouble is that the finished card often curls in at the corners. I am using PVA glue as sparingly as possible. What is the problem? Will the problem disappear if I move on to Watercolour paper? Can someone recommend a different glue? (NB I'm in the UK). Michael Toomey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.31.00.5 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:22:45 -0600 From: "Theresa Steeper" To: oa@deepwizardry.com Subject: [OA] Using patterns in books Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com I am also new to this craft and have a practical question-- What are the best methods of taking patterns from books without destroying the original book or pattern? I have been using the pinprick method and a Xerox copy of the pattern I want, but I wonder if there is a better way. How have you solved this problem? I am receiving blind carbon copies of all correspondence, and as such have no idea who else is out there on the OA mail list. Is there a way I can find out (or know how large the list is?) Tracy Steeper (tsteeper@allina.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Toomey" To: "'oa@deepwizardry.com'" Subject: [OA] Japanese Rice Paper Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:26:19 -0000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com Hi! I'm about to try my first constructed pop-up using one of Masahiro Chatani's patterns. He suggests using separate pieces of card for the base, (and backing), joined with Japanese Rice Paper for the hinge so that the card opens out nice and flat. I haven't found any in the Art shops over here (UK) and was wondering what others have used instead! Would two or three layers of tissue paper suffice? A strip of Calico similar fabric? Michael Toomey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:27:38 -0700 To: oa@deepwizardry.com From: Andrew Crawford Subject: Re: [OA] Using patterns in books Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com Greetings Tracy! At 08:22 AM 1/27/2000 -0600, Tracy Steeper wrote: >I am also new to this craft and have a practical question-- > >What are the best methods of taking patterns from books without destroying the >original book or pattern? I have been using the pinprick method and a Xerox >copy of the pattern I want, but I wonder if there is a better way. How >have you solved this problem? I have tried several approaches in the past. Currently, I make a copy of the pattern and affix it (with drafting tape) to the piece of paper I want to use for the OA. I put the printed side sandwiched in the middle. Then, I put it on my (homemade) light table. That way, I can see the lines well enough to score and cut without making any marks on the paper that will become the finished piece. >I am receiving blind carbon copies of all correspondence, and as such have no >idea who else is out there on the OA mail list. Is there a way I can find out >(or know how large the list is?) > >Tracy Steeper (tsteeper@allina.com) The list is set up that way so that people with commercial interests can't get your email address easily and use it to send you unsolicited commercial messages (spam.) Last time I checked, there were about 20 subscribers. Andrew Crawford Andrew@Evermore.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:28:22 -0700 To: oa@deepwizardry.com From: Andrew Crawford Subject: Re: [OA] Japanese Rice Paper Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com At 02:26 PM 1/27/2000 +0000, Michael Toomey wrote: >Hi! > >I'm about to try my first constructed pop-up using one of Masahiro Chatani's >patterns. He suggests using separate pieces of card for the base, (and >backing), joined with Japanese Rice Paper for the hinge so that the card >opens out nice and flat. >I haven't found any in the Art shops over here (UK) and was wondering what >others have used instead! >Would two or three layers of tissue paper suffice? A strip of Calico similar >fabric? > >Michael Toomey I generally just use a single piece for the base, scored and folded in the middle, for most cards. I've used two piece hinged with rice paper only for 180-degree OA designs. I think the special property of rice paper that is relevant for this is that it stretches slightly. So, it can be somewhat taught when the card is open but, still allow the card to close. I expect that calico or another fabric might work. It's worth a try, in any case. Someone else here might have a better suggestion. You can also buy rice paper online. Dick Blick ( http://www.dickblick.com/ ) sells it through their online catalog and I believe they will ship internationally. They generally don't have the lowest prices but, they have a lot of different stuff. Try these to get directly to the rice paper pages: http://www.db-secure.com/zz104/03/products.asp?param=0&ig_id=736 http://www.db-secure.com/zz129/52/products.asp?param=0&ig_id=724 Andrew Crawford Andrew@Evermore.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:29:02 -0700 To: oa@deepwizardry.com From: Andrew Crawford Subject: Re: [OA] Which glue? Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com At 02:18 PM 1/27/2000 +0000, Michael Toomey wrote: >Hi, > >I've only recently discovered OA and I'm hooked but I have a couple of >problems........here's one! > >I've been using 220 gsm Cartridge paper up until now and have been backing >my pop-ups with coloured card, (which is of unknown "weight" but which seems >to be at least as stiff as the paper). >My trouble is that the finished card often curls in at the corners. >I am using PVA glue as sparingly as possible. What is the problem? Will the >problem disappear if I move on to Watercolour paper? Can someone recommend a >different glue? (NB I'm in the UK). > >Michael Toomey I like Letraset Studio Tac dry adhesive (the permanent variety, not the remountable.) There's no liquid in it so, no paper curl from the glue. It's also not even vaguely inexpensive. I think some of the other listmembers have tried a greater variety of glues than I have ... Are you making sure that the paper grain is vertical rather than horizontal when you layout and cut a design? Andrew Crawford Andrew@Evermore.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jenny Rolfe" To: oa@deepwizardry.com Subject: Re: [OA] Using patterns in books Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:33:06 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com I scan all my patterns, print them out and make them backwards, if you see what I mean! jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: Theresa Steeper To: Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 2:22 PM Subject: [OA] Using patterns in books > I am also new to this craft and have a practical question-- > > What are the best methods of taking patterns from books without destroying the > original book or pattern? I have been using the pinprick method and a Xerox > copy of the pattern I want, but I wonder if there is a better way. How have you > solved this problem? > > I am receiving blind carbon copies of all correspondence, and as such have no > idea who else is out there on the OA mail list. Is there a way I can find out > (or know how large the list is?) > > Tracy Steeper (tsteeper@allina.com) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jenny Rolfe" To: oa@deepwizardry.com Subject: Re: [OA] Japanese Rice Paper Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:34:16 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com one word, sellotape. Okay, maybe not, I just use nice thin paper, I think tissue would rip too easily jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: M.Toomey To: Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: [OA] Japanese Rice Paper > Hi! > > I'm about to try my first constructed pop-up using one of Masahiro Chatani's > patterns. He suggests using separate pieces of card for the base, (and > backing), joined with Japanese Rice Paper for the hinge so that the card > opens out nice and flat. > I haven't found any in the Art shops over here (UK) and was wondering what > others have used instead! > Would two or three layers of tissue paper suffice? A strip of Calico similar > fabric? > > Michael Toomey > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.31.00.5 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:55:48 -0600 From: "Theresa Steeper" To: oa@deepwizardry.com Subject: Re[2]: [OA] Using patterns in books Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com Jenny- Can you be more explicit about the scanning and printing and cutting backwards? Do you mean that you print on heavy (65 lb or so) paper, flip over, and cut on a light box so that the lines are on the back side of the finished product? Tracy
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